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    Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.

    In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

    When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gangbanger, and a single gay guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

    There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

    Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weightlifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.

    When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

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    Very well said. I agree.

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    Would you guys feel comfortable if you knew everyone around you was carrying a gun?
    I masturbate alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by octopus View Post
    Would you guys feel comfortable if you knew everyone around you was carrying a gun?
    I'm not comfortable knowing that in some "neighborhoods" everyone is carrying a gun except me.

    You can never be too comfortable, because the guy walking towards you could be armed, high on meth, psychotic, desperate, or just off his meds. You can't predict the crazy shit that could happen to you, but if you armed, you can be comfortable in your equipment, your training and your ability to defend yourself.
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    MUCH more comfortable.
    No one ever robs a police station nor a gun store.

    Quote Originally Posted by octopus View Post
    Would you guys feel comfortable if you knew everyone around you was carrying a gun?
    "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
    Thomas Jefferson

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    Excellent write up Dan, sounds like something you would read in the NRA's America's First Freedom magazine.


    Quote Originally Posted by octopus View Post
    Would you guys feel comfortable if you knew everyone around you was carrying a gun?
    Yes, as long as those people are all law bidding citizens like I am. I remember seeing something on TV a few years back, I think on 60 Minutes. About a town that had an ordinance that every citizen was supposed to own a gun. That town had no crime. I wish I could remember the name of the town now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by octopus View Post
    Would you guys feel comfortable if you knew everyone around you was carrying a gun?
    Yes I would. I've always wanted to carry but being married to a latin woman, I am smart enough not to have a gun near her.

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